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		<title>By: Dr John Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr John Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have been concerned with the forecasts of &quot;The limits to growth&quot; since 1972.  Since no-one is interested and we live an a society in denial we have formed our own group, the Island Bay World Service (www.ibws.blogspot.com).

The initial forecast was for crisis and collapse around mid-century.  Study of many other more complex global models and associated research, and just watching events unfold, have led us to a crunch point of 2030, the same as the UK Chief Science Adviser, and we have published a book &quot;New Zealand 2030, the world&#039;s lifeboat&quot; and printed copies of a handout &quot;Twenty years to disaster&quot;.

This article suggests that the crunch may come sooner.  I expect that we will witness another foreshock (just as the 1970s gave foreshocks to the 2008 oil peak), struggle through it, and move on to worse as the years go by in continuing spin and hypocrisy.

Our current effort is to stimulate a campaign &quot;Rugby World Cup, don&#039;t come&quot;, as the extensive efforts of most of New Zealand are aimed at more tourism, burning of oil and production of greenhouse gases.  If only someone were listening we could then present the full picture, including food.  If only science were not destroyed and cobbled in New Zealand, a group of scientists like our Commission for the Future (1978-82) could study this information critically and give us educated information.  We want to serve the people but we are unemployed and not well off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been concerned with the forecasts of &#8220;The limits to growth&#8221; since 1972.  Since no-one is interested and we live an a society in denial we have formed our own group, the Island Bay World Service (www.ibws.blogspot.com).</p>
<p>The initial forecast was for crisis and collapse around mid-century.  Study of many other more complex global models and associated research, and just watching events unfold, have led us to a crunch point of 2030, the same as the UK Chief Science Adviser, and we have published a book &#8220;New Zealand 2030, the world&#8217;s lifeboat&#8221; and printed copies of a handout &#8220;Twenty years to disaster&#8221;.</p>
<p>This article suggests that the crunch may come sooner.  I expect that we will witness another foreshock (just as the 1970s gave foreshocks to the 2008 oil peak), struggle through it, and move on to worse as the years go by in continuing spin and hypocrisy.</p>
<p>Our current effort is to stimulate a campaign &#8220;Rugby World Cup, don&#8217;t come&#8221;, as the extensive efforts of most of New Zealand are aimed at more tourism, burning of oil and production of greenhouse gases.  If only someone were listening we could then present the full picture, including food.  If only science were not destroyed and cobbled in New Zealand, a group of scientists like our Commission for the Future (1978-82) could study this information critically and give us educated information.  We want to serve the people but we are unemployed and not well off.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 05:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Hammel said &quot;The UN is using Food as a weapon and will continue to do so, especially as it and water become scarcer. Weather control is also a factor here, its being used to destroy crops and create food shortages. Read up on HAARP.&quot;

I URGE YOU TO DO THIS. The food shortages have been contrived from the weather weapon HAARP which works in conjunction with chemtrails.  

Global warming is just an elite scam. I am an organic farmer and KNOW OUR SKYS and local growing conditions. I have recorded the chemtrail jets on film... a great number of us are awake and aware downunder and are ready to expose this SCAM. The Powers that be (note the logo on this site) have global warming all wrapped up in a nice package for you.  

A fleet of chemtrail planes are now working over the South Island of New Zealand now which disgusts me - They are blocking the sun over our major farm producing &amp; tourist areas.  No rain for weeks and now that the crops are cut for harvest we have torrential rain.  Strange moulds are appearing on the plants and all the honey bees have gone (due to EMF waves).  Not only have the bees dissapeared but suddenly there is not a white butterfly or an aphid in site.  

As John said - grow a garden, preferably under glass as the fallout of the chemtrails is contaminating the land with heavy metals and god knows what else.

Don&#039;t be sucked in by the nonsence fed to you in the mainstream media/government websites about this issue - the truth is available to the diserning mind.  Use the internet while you can.  HAARP will eventually be used to cut all communications.

Stock up on UNFLORIDATED water, plant &amp; save the seed (not the kind produced by Monsato)

Our hearts go out to you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Hammel said &#8220;The UN is using Food as a weapon and will continue to do so, especially as it and water become scarcer. Weather control is also a factor here, its being used to destroy crops and create food shortages. Read up on HAARP.&#8221;</p>
<p>I URGE YOU TO DO THIS. The food shortages have been contrived from the weather weapon HAARP which works in conjunction with chemtrails.  </p>
<p>Global warming is just an elite scam. I am an organic farmer and KNOW OUR SKYS and local growing conditions. I have recorded the chemtrail jets on film&#8230; a great number of us are awake and aware downunder and are ready to expose this SCAM. The Powers that be (note the logo on this site) have global warming all wrapped up in a nice package for you.  </p>
<p>A fleet of chemtrail planes are now working over the South Island of New Zealand now which disgusts me &#8211; They are blocking the sun over our major farm producing &amp; tourist areas.  No rain for weeks and now that the crops are cut for harvest we have torrential rain.  Strange moulds are appearing on the plants and all the honey bees have gone (due to EMF waves).  Not only have the bees dissapeared but suddenly there is not a white butterfly or an aphid in site.  </p>
<p>As John said &#8211; grow a garden, preferably under glass as the fallout of the chemtrails is contaminating the land with heavy metals and god knows what else.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be sucked in by the nonsence fed to you in the mainstream media/government websites about this issue &#8211; the truth is available to the diserning mind.  Use the internet while you can.  HAARP will eventually be used to cut all communications.</p>
<p>Stock up on UNFLORIDATED water, plant &amp; save the seed (not the kind produced by Monsato)</p>
<p>Our hearts go out to you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that last week (early Jan) Kenya finally got rain, however, too much! and with dessicated soils most has simply washed the remaining topsoil away and caused flooding.Even Home gardens are struggling in Aus, cool start meant slow germination, the sudden heat/cold thats been happening has confused the plants too much and harvest, if any, is little.50 corn seeds in-20 sprouted- and only 12 ears produced and they are partially fertilised, ie patchy results , you need to eat 3 to get the usual amount of food,:-( and they were in well prepared soil with regular watering..
Mark, as always, sage advice!
 Laurel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that last week (early Jan) Kenya finally got rain, however, too much! and with dessicated soils most has simply washed the remaining topsoil away and caused flooding.Even Home gardens are struggling in Aus, cool start meant slow germination, the sudden heat/cold thats been happening has confused the plants too much and harvest, if any, is little.50 corn seeds in-20 sprouted- and only 12 ears produced and they are partially fertilised, ie patchy results , you need to eat 3 to get the usual amount of food,:-( and they were in well prepared soil with regular watering..<br />
Mark, as always, sage advice!<br />
 Laurel</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Fassa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Fassa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 07:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good scary write up on a couple of approaches for depopulation. I agree with John Hammell&#039;s comment RE weather control (HAARP). I think also, just as you nailed the global warming scam, you should re-examine peak oil for the scam that it is. I can suggest googling William Engdahl and Lindsey Williams for starters. Ciao for Now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good scary write up on a couple of approaches for depopulation. I agree with John Hammell&#8217;s comment RE weather control (HAARP). I think also, just as you nailed the global warming scam, you should re-examine peak oil for the scam that it is. I can suggest googling William Engdahl and Lindsey Williams for starters. Ciao for Now</p>
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		<title>By: estella</title>
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		<dc:creator>estella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 03:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this article interesting!  The point is back to victory gardens atc.  I do not depend on my GOV. to do anything.  God gave use the knowledge to survive.  The biggest part is, He (God) showed  a squirrel how to collect nuts etc. and get ready for winter.  Where I live we get ready in the summer.  Plan ahead and live.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this article interesting!  The point is back to victory gardens atc.  I do not depend on my GOV. to do anything.  God gave use the knowledge to survive.  The biggest part is, He (God) showed  a squirrel how to collect nuts etc. and get ready for winter.  Where I live we get ready in the summer.  Plan ahead and live.!</p>
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		<title>By: John Hammell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hammell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 02:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UN is using Food as a weapon and will continue to do so, especially as it and water become scarcer. Weather control is also a factor here, its being used to destroy crops and create food shortages. Read up on HAARP. More people need to learn about growing food in their yards and about canning the way people did during the depression and during WW2 when people had &quot;Victory Gardens.&quot; More people need to do rooftop water collection, build greenhouses and learn about permaculture. More community gardens should be built. We&#039;re building one right now where I live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UN is using Food as a weapon and will continue to do so, especially as it and water become scarcer. Weather control is also a factor here, its being used to destroy crops and create food shortages. Read up on HAARP. More people need to learn about growing food in their yards and about canning the way people did during the depression and during WW2 when people had &#8220;Victory Gardens.&#8221; More people need to do rooftop water collection, build greenhouses and learn about permaculture. More community gardens should be built. We&#8217;re building one right now where I live.</p>
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